Staying in the EU past my 90-day work agreement
.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
I'm a non-EU citizen with a 90-day work agreement for Germany as a sort of student program. After these 90 days, I want to stay for no more than a week to go on a vacation with my girlfriend. But the vacation is also in the EU, so do I have 90 days as a tourist in the EU because of my work agreement or will overstaying for a week cause no harm?
visas germany tourist-visas eu work
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
I'm a non-EU citizen with a 90-day work agreement for Germany as a sort of student program. After these 90 days, I want to stay for no more than a week to go on a vacation with my girlfriend. But the vacation is also in the EU, so do I have 90 days as a tourist in the EU because of my work agreement or will overstaying for a week cause no harm?
visas germany tourist-visas eu work
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
1
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
up vote
0
down vote
favorite
I'm a non-EU citizen with a 90-day work agreement for Germany as a sort of student program. After these 90 days, I want to stay for no more than a week to go on a vacation with my girlfriend. But the vacation is also in the EU, so do I have 90 days as a tourist in the EU because of my work agreement or will overstaying for a week cause no harm?
visas germany tourist-visas eu work
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
I'm a non-EU citizen with a 90-day work agreement for Germany as a sort of student program. After these 90 days, I want to stay for no more than a week to go on a vacation with my girlfriend. But the vacation is also in the EU, so do I have 90 days as a tourist in the EU because of my work agreement or will overstaying for a week cause no harm?
visas germany tourist-visas eu work
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
edited Jul 11 at 11:45
Newton
3,66821537
3,66821537
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
asked Jul 11 at 9:38
Dan
1
1
1
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42
add a comment |Â
1
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42
1
1
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
I would assume that you have to leave the EU and apply for a visitor visa again. From a report on Euro-Dollar-Currency.com:
Overstaying Schengen visa can be very expensive. One traveler is known
to have been fined 700 EUR by the Greece embassy after 20 days of
overstaying Schengen visa. He had two options, either to pay a 700 EUR
fine to the embassy or not to pay the 700 EUR fine but then not be
allowed to get back to Greece and the whole Schengen zone for 5 years.
I really wouldn't risk it, more so, if you plan on going back to Germany or other Schengen states in the near future.
EDIT:
Found this answer on a similar question:
I had the same situation as you. I decided to leave the Schengen area
when my work visa expired (hopped over to London for the weekend) and
came back through Paris. I had no trouble at border control with
getting an entry stamp, and the border agent hardly looked at my
expired visa.
seems like you will be fine if you just leave the Schengen area and go right back in. On the other hand, other answers on the question mentioned seem to suggest, that you get the 90 day tourist visa automatically after your work agreement expires, but I find that hard to believe.
The French Consulate in Sydney specifically says you should leave Schengen and reenter it:
If you want to stay in the Schengen space (for up to 90 days) at the
expiry of your working holiday visa, you will have to leave France and
the Schengen space and re-enter the Schengen area the following day as
a tourist for 90 days within a 6 months period. You may leave the
Schengen area (passport stamped at the border) by going to the UK for
example.
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
I would assume that you have to leave the EU and apply for a visitor visa again. From a report on Euro-Dollar-Currency.com:
Overstaying Schengen visa can be very expensive. One traveler is known
to have been fined 700 EUR by the Greece embassy after 20 days of
overstaying Schengen visa. He had two options, either to pay a 700 EUR
fine to the embassy or not to pay the 700 EUR fine but then not be
allowed to get back to Greece and the whole Schengen zone for 5 years.
I really wouldn't risk it, more so, if you plan on going back to Germany or other Schengen states in the near future.
EDIT:
Found this answer on a similar question:
I had the same situation as you. I decided to leave the Schengen area
when my work visa expired (hopped over to London for the weekend) and
came back through Paris. I had no trouble at border control with
getting an entry stamp, and the border agent hardly looked at my
expired visa.
seems like you will be fine if you just leave the Schengen area and go right back in. On the other hand, other answers on the question mentioned seem to suggest, that you get the 90 day tourist visa automatically after your work agreement expires, but I find that hard to believe.
The French Consulate in Sydney specifically says you should leave Schengen and reenter it:
If you want to stay in the Schengen space (for up to 90 days) at the
expiry of your working holiday visa, you will have to leave France and
the Schengen space and re-enter the Schengen area the following day as
a tourist for 90 days within a 6 months period. You may leave the
Schengen area (passport stamped at the border) by going to the UK for
example.
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
I would assume that you have to leave the EU and apply for a visitor visa again. From a report on Euro-Dollar-Currency.com:
Overstaying Schengen visa can be very expensive. One traveler is known
to have been fined 700 EUR by the Greece embassy after 20 days of
overstaying Schengen visa. He had two options, either to pay a 700 EUR
fine to the embassy or not to pay the 700 EUR fine but then not be
allowed to get back to Greece and the whole Schengen zone for 5 years.
I really wouldn't risk it, more so, if you plan on going back to Germany or other Schengen states in the near future.
EDIT:
Found this answer on a similar question:
I had the same situation as you. I decided to leave the Schengen area
when my work visa expired (hopped over to London for the weekend) and
came back through Paris. I had no trouble at border control with
getting an entry stamp, and the border agent hardly looked at my
expired visa.
seems like you will be fine if you just leave the Schengen area and go right back in. On the other hand, other answers on the question mentioned seem to suggest, that you get the 90 day tourist visa automatically after your work agreement expires, but I find that hard to believe.
The French Consulate in Sydney specifically says you should leave Schengen and reenter it:
If you want to stay in the Schengen space (for up to 90 days) at the
expiry of your working holiday visa, you will have to leave France and
the Schengen space and re-enter the Schengen area the following day as
a tourist for 90 days within a 6 months period. You may leave the
Schengen area (passport stamped at the border) by going to the UK for
example.
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
I would assume that you have to leave the EU and apply for a visitor visa again. From a report on Euro-Dollar-Currency.com:
Overstaying Schengen visa can be very expensive. One traveler is known
to have been fined 700 EUR by the Greece embassy after 20 days of
overstaying Schengen visa. He had two options, either to pay a 700 EUR
fine to the embassy or not to pay the 700 EUR fine but then not be
allowed to get back to Greece and the whole Schengen zone for 5 years.
I really wouldn't risk it, more so, if you plan on going back to Germany or other Schengen states in the near future.
EDIT:
Found this answer on a similar question:
I had the same situation as you. I decided to leave the Schengen area
when my work visa expired (hopped over to London for the weekend) and
came back through Paris. I had no trouble at border control with
getting an entry stamp, and the border agent hardly looked at my
expired visa.
seems like you will be fine if you just leave the Schengen area and go right back in. On the other hand, other answers on the question mentioned seem to suggest, that you get the 90 day tourist visa automatically after your work agreement expires, but I find that hard to believe.
The French Consulate in Sydney specifically says you should leave Schengen and reenter it:
If you want to stay in the Schengen space (for up to 90 days) at the
expiry of your working holiday visa, you will have to leave France and
the Schengen space and re-enter the Schengen area the following day as
a tourist for 90 days within a 6 months period. You may leave the
Schengen area (passport stamped at the border) by going to the UK for
example.
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
I would assume that you have to leave the EU and apply for a visitor visa again. From a report on Euro-Dollar-Currency.com:
Overstaying Schengen visa can be very expensive. One traveler is known
to have been fined 700 EUR by the Greece embassy after 20 days of
overstaying Schengen visa. He had two options, either to pay a 700 EUR
fine to the embassy or not to pay the 700 EUR fine but then not be
allowed to get back to Greece and the whole Schengen zone for 5 years.
I really wouldn't risk it, more so, if you plan on going back to Germany or other Schengen states in the near future.
EDIT:
Found this answer on a similar question:
I had the same situation as you. I decided to leave the Schengen area
when my work visa expired (hopped over to London for the weekend) and
came back through Paris. I had no trouble at border control with
getting an entry stamp, and the border agent hardly looked at my
expired visa.
seems like you will be fine if you just leave the Schengen area and go right back in. On the other hand, other answers on the question mentioned seem to suggest, that you get the 90 day tourist visa automatically after your work agreement expires, but I find that hard to believe.
The French Consulate in Sydney specifically says you should leave Schengen and reenter it:
If you want to stay in the Schengen space (for up to 90 days) at the
expiry of your working holiday visa, you will have to leave France and
the Schengen space and re-enter the Schengen area the following day as
a tourist for 90 days within a 6 months period. You may leave the
Schengen area (passport stamped at the border) by going to the UK for
example.
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
edited Jul 11 at 11:21
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
answered Jul 11 at 11:11
airflyer13
193111
193111
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
add a comment |Â
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
iow, what the French consulate says pretty much confirms the other example you came across. Seems that an expired work permit serves as an implicit tourist visa for the period immediately following its expiration.
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 11:57
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
@jwenting Quite the opposite I believe, the French Consulate states that you have to leave the Schengen area and come back to get your tourist visa there is no implicit visa granted.
– airflyer13
Jul 11 at 12:11
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
it's implicit in that it will count as such when returning within the 6 month period. And apparently it becomes such when an exit stamp is placed on it before the work permit's expiry date (so overstaying your work permit will not grant you an automatic 90 day extension, which is probably why that rule applies).
– jwenting
Jul 11 at 12:15
1
1
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
@jwenting by saying "enter as a tourist," the French consulate assumes that the person is entitled to visa-free short stays by reason of nationality or has a type-C visa. An expired national visa, work permit, or residence permit does not serve as an implicit tourist visa in any event. Furthermore, we do not know whether the poster here has a national visa or residence permit. Some countries separate work authorization from residence authorization. If the residence authorization was under the short stay rules, it will be difficult indeed to return as a tourist within three months.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:42
add a comment |Â
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f118270%2fstaying-in-the-eu-past-my-90-day-work-agreement%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Clash Royale CLAN TAG
1
For clarity what is your nationality (ie can you enter visa free)?
– Traveller
Jul 11 at 11:19
Do you have a visa to cover your stay in Germany? If so, is it a type C or type D visa?
– phoog
Jul 11 at 12:31
If you have no visa, or it is a type C visa, then you will need a type D visa for your subsequent visit (unless you wait for 90 days). It is probably impossible to obtain a type D visa for a 1-week vacation.
– phoog
Jul 11 at 17:42