Is there racism in Estonia?



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I am an Indian man planning to travel around Estonia for a couple of weeks as a tourist. I would be covering Tallinn, Narva, Tartu, Parnu and perhaps one of the islands. I will be travelling alone, backpacking and staying in hostels. Is there danger of racist violence or any form of passive racism (i.e. preferential treatment of white people over black) that I am likely to experience? Are there areas I should be avoiding? I speak English very well, but no Estonian, although I am planning to learn basic words for daily use. Although I am Indian, I am from the south of India and have often been mistaken for being black or of African/American origin whenever travelling abroad. (And not in a bad way, if you know what I mean :-)) I also have prominently visible tattoos over my arm, non-religious and I don't know if they associate this with something specific there?
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I am an Indian man planning to travel around Estonia for a couple of weeks as a tourist. I would be covering Tallinn, Narva, Tartu, Parnu and perhaps one of the islands. I will be travelling alone, backpacking and staying in hostels. Is there danger of racist violence or any form of passive racism (i.e. preferential treatment of white people over black) that I am likely to experience? Are there areas I should be avoiding? I speak English very well, but no Estonian, although I am planning to learn basic words for daily use. Although I am Indian, I am from the south of India and have often been mistaken for being black or of African/American origin whenever travelling abroad. (And not in a bad way, if you know what I mean :-)) I also have prominently visible tattoos over my arm, non-religious and I don't know if they associate this with something specific there?
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I am an Indian man planning to travel around Estonia for a couple of weeks as a tourist. I would be covering Tallinn, Narva, Tartu, Parnu and perhaps one of the islands. I will be travelling alone, backpacking and staying in hostels. Is there danger of racist violence or any form of passive racism (i.e. preferential treatment of white people over black) that I am likely to experience? Are there areas I should be avoiding? I speak English very well, but no Estonian, although I am planning to learn basic words for daily use. Although I am Indian, I am from the south of India and have often been mistaken for being black or of African/American origin whenever travelling abroad. (And not in a bad way, if you know what I mean :-)) I also have prominently visible tattoos over my arm, non-religious and I don't know if they associate this with something specific there?
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I'm Indian, have lived in Russia and travelled to Estonia (and a lot of towns in the interior of in the former USSR where few foreigners visit). I have not experienced racism of any kind. In my years of travel in the region, if there were a few instances of unfriendly behavior, it invariably involved young men who had a lot to drink. You should be able to manage with English.






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    There exists racism everywhere on the planet, including in Estonia.



    Hans Glaubitz was ambassador from The Netherlands to Estonia between 2005 and 2006. He is married (or at least was at the time) to a male black Cuban artist (at the time, there were only four countries and one US state where same-sex marriage was legal). Within a year, he left due to, what he said, homophobic and racist bullying against him and his husband. However, gossip claims that he was himself behaving snobbishly and that the hostility was rather a consequence of snobbish behaviour than of him being black or gay, or that his husband was simply bored with living in Tallinn and more than happy for Mr. Glaubitz to be placed in Canada instead.



    This was 12 years ago, and it's quite possible that the incidents were exaggerated at the time and/or that racism (and homophobia) have reduced since then.



    An article in De Volkskrant (in Dutch) and in World Press (in English) has more details.






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    • So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
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    • @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
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    • Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
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    Disclaimer: I'm estonian and live in Estonia, thereby my view may be quite subjective.



    In general, you should be safe. Most people here do not share racist views, although in light of recent years migration crisis in Europe some people have started hate every other human being, having different color of skin or different (esp muslim) religious views - likely same in other European countries.



    Probably you should avoid night streets of bigger cities, where drunken young men just look for opportunities to harass someone. Well, I would not walk there myself either.



    Otherwise learn few words of estonian (like Hello! - Tere!, Thanks! - Aitäh!), be positive, helpful and likely you win hearts of most local people. Due to the our history (forcefully migrated eastern workers didn't learn single word of estonian for 20 years) few estonian phrases should make wonders :)






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      "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
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    Having recently returned from Estonia and having traveled around the country solo, without knowing the language, I am happy to report that with the exception of the immigration officers, my experience has been completely positive. It is true that people in this part of the world just do not smile and are not gregarious and outspoken, like you might expect in India or the Americas, but they were all very polite, well behaved and helpful whenever needed. No trouble or racism at all.






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    I'm Indian, have lived in Russia and travelled to Estonia (and a lot of towns in the interior of in the former USSR where few foreigners visit). I have not experienced racism of any kind. In my years of travel in the region, if there were a few instances of unfriendly behavior, it invariably involved young men who had a lot to drink. You should be able to manage with English.






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      I'm Indian, have lived in Russia and travelled to Estonia (and a lot of towns in the interior of in the former USSR where few foreigners visit). I have not experienced racism of any kind. In my years of travel in the region, if there were a few instances of unfriendly behavior, it invariably involved young men who had a lot to drink. You should be able to manage with English.






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        I'm Indian, have lived in Russia and travelled to Estonia (and a lot of towns in the interior of in the former USSR where few foreigners visit). I have not experienced racism of any kind. In my years of travel in the region, if there were a few instances of unfriendly behavior, it invariably involved young men who had a lot to drink. You should be able to manage with English.






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        I'm Indian, have lived in Russia and travelled to Estonia (and a lot of towns in the interior of in the former USSR where few foreigners visit). I have not experienced racism of any kind. In my years of travel in the region, if there were a few instances of unfriendly behavior, it invariably involved young men who had a lot to drink. You should be able to manage with English.







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            There exists racism everywhere on the planet, including in Estonia.



            Hans Glaubitz was ambassador from The Netherlands to Estonia between 2005 and 2006. He is married (or at least was at the time) to a male black Cuban artist (at the time, there were only four countries and one US state where same-sex marriage was legal). Within a year, he left due to, what he said, homophobic and racist bullying against him and his husband. However, gossip claims that he was himself behaving snobbishly and that the hostility was rather a consequence of snobbish behaviour than of him being black or gay, or that his husband was simply bored with living in Tallinn and more than happy for Mr. Glaubitz to be placed in Canada instead.



            This was 12 years ago, and it's quite possible that the incidents were exaggerated at the time and/or that racism (and homophobia) have reduced since then.



            An article in De Volkskrant (in Dutch) and in World Press (in English) has more details.






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            • So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
              – Summer
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            • @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
              – gerrit
              Jun 25 at 10:06











            • Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
              – Alex
              Aug 21 at 6:23














            up vote
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            There exists racism everywhere on the planet, including in Estonia.



            Hans Glaubitz was ambassador from The Netherlands to Estonia between 2005 and 2006. He is married (or at least was at the time) to a male black Cuban artist (at the time, there were only four countries and one US state where same-sex marriage was legal). Within a year, he left due to, what he said, homophobic and racist bullying against him and his husband. However, gossip claims that he was himself behaving snobbishly and that the hostility was rather a consequence of snobbish behaviour than of him being black or gay, or that his husband was simply bored with living in Tallinn and more than happy for Mr. Glaubitz to be placed in Canada instead.



            This was 12 years ago, and it's quite possible that the incidents were exaggerated at the time and/or that racism (and homophobia) have reduced since then.



            An article in De Volkskrant (in Dutch) and in World Press (in English) has more details.






            share|improve this answer






















            • So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
              – Summer
              Jun 25 at 10:04










            • @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
              – gerrit
              Jun 25 at 10:06











            • Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
              – Alex
              Aug 21 at 6:23












            up vote
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            up vote
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            There exists racism everywhere on the planet, including in Estonia.



            Hans Glaubitz was ambassador from The Netherlands to Estonia between 2005 and 2006. He is married (or at least was at the time) to a male black Cuban artist (at the time, there were only four countries and one US state where same-sex marriage was legal). Within a year, he left due to, what he said, homophobic and racist bullying against him and his husband. However, gossip claims that he was himself behaving snobbishly and that the hostility was rather a consequence of snobbish behaviour than of him being black or gay, or that his husband was simply bored with living in Tallinn and more than happy for Mr. Glaubitz to be placed in Canada instead.



            This was 12 years ago, and it's quite possible that the incidents were exaggerated at the time and/or that racism (and homophobia) have reduced since then.



            An article in De Volkskrant (in Dutch) and in World Press (in English) has more details.






            share|improve this answer














            There exists racism everywhere on the planet, including in Estonia.



            Hans Glaubitz was ambassador from The Netherlands to Estonia between 2005 and 2006. He is married (or at least was at the time) to a male black Cuban artist (at the time, there were only four countries and one US state where same-sex marriage was legal). Within a year, he left due to, what he said, homophobic and racist bullying against him and his husband. However, gossip claims that he was himself behaving snobbishly and that the hostility was rather a consequence of snobbish behaviour than of him being black or gay, or that his husband was simply bored with living in Tallinn and more than happy for Mr. Glaubitz to be placed in Canada instead.



            This was 12 years ago, and it's quite possible that the incidents were exaggerated at the time and/or that racism (and homophobia) have reduced since then.



            An article in De Volkskrant (in Dutch) and in World Press (in English) has more details.







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            • So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
              – Summer
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            • @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
              – gerrit
              Jun 25 at 10:06











            • Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
              – Alex
              Aug 21 at 6:23
















            • So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
              – Summer
              Jun 25 at 10:04










            • @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
              – gerrit
              Jun 25 at 10:06











            • Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
              – Alex
              Aug 21 at 6:23















            So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
            – Summer
            Jun 25 at 10:04




            So much has changed in the past 12 years when it comes to homophobia, racism etc. As far as I understand, the 'issue' stated in the articles was mostly homophobic. If this was an article from 5 years ago I would have upvoted, but I don't think this could still be relevant 12 years later. On top of that, OP is not a public figure.
            – Summer
            Jun 25 at 10:04












            @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
            – gerrit
            Jun 25 at 10:06





            @JaneDoe1337 All true, with the footnote that your final remark is probably true but we don't actually know that, although probably most people recognised as public figures in India won't be in Estonia, so maybe OP is a cricket or Bollywood star wanting to go undercover and escape fame for a couple of weeks ;-)
            – gerrit
            Jun 25 at 10:06













            Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
            – Alex
            Aug 21 at 6:23




            Wait, I just saw this comment. Hahaha! I wish I were a Bollywood or cricket star, but sadly no! Maybe one day...
            – Alex
            Aug 21 at 6:23










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            Disclaimer: I'm estonian and live in Estonia, thereby my view may be quite subjective.



            In general, you should be safe. Most people here do not share racist views, although in light of recent years migration crisis in Europe some people have started hate every other human being, having different color of skin or different (esp muslim) religious views - likely same in other European countries.



            Probably you should avoid night streets of bigger cities, where drunken young men just look for opportunities to harass someone. Well, I would not walk there myself either.



            Otherwise learn few words of estonian (like Hello! - Tere!, Thanks! - Aitäh!), be positive, helpful and likely you win hearts of most local people. Due to the our history (forcefully migrated eastern workers didn't learn single word of estonian for 20 years) few estonian phrases should make wonders :)






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              "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
              – Michael Kay
              Jun 22 at 16:05














            up vote
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            Disclaimer: I'm estonian and live in Estonia, thereby my view may be quite subjective.



            In general, you should be safe. Most people here do not share racist views, although in light of recent years migration crisis in Europe some people have started hate every other human being, having different color of skin or different (esp muslim) religious views - likely same in other European countries.



            Probably you should avoid night streets of bigger cities, where drunken young men just look for opportunities to harass someone. Well, I would not walk there myself either.



            Otherwise learn few words of estonian (like Hello! - Tere!, Thanks! - Aitäh!), be positive, helpful and likely you win hearts of most local people. Due to the our history (forcefully migrated eastern workers didn't learn single word of estonian for 20 years) few estonian phrases should make wonders :)






            share|improve this answer


















            • 5




              "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
              – Michael Kay
              Jun 22 at 16:05












            up vote
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            up vote
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            Disclaimer: I'm estonian and live in Estonia, thereby my view may be quite subjective.



            In general, you should be safe. Most people here do not share racist views, although in light of recent years migration crisis in Europe some people have started hate every other human being, having different color of skin or different (esp muslim) religious views - likely same in other European countries.



            Probably you should avoid night streets of bigger cities, where drunken young men just look for opportunities to harass someone. Well, I would not walk there myself either.



            Otherwise learn few words of estonian (like Hello! - Tere!, Thanks! - Aitäh!), be positive, helpful and likely you win hearts of most local people. Due to the our history (forcefully migrated eastern workers didn't learn single word of estonian for 20 years) few estonian phrases should make wonders :)






            share|improve this answer














            Disclaimer: I'm estonian and live in Estonia, thereby my view may be quite subjective.



            In general, you should be safe. Most people here do not share racist views, although in light of recent years migration crisis in Europe some people have started hate every other human being, having different color of skin or different (esp muslim) religious views - likely same in other European countries.



            Probably you should avoid night streets of bigger cities, where drunken young men just look for opportunities to harass someone. Well, I would not walk there myself either.



            Otherwise learn few words of estonian (like Hello! - Tere!, Thanks! - Aitäh!), be positive, helpful and likely you win hearts of most local people. Due to the our history (forcefully migrated eastern workers didn't learn single word of estonian for 20 years) few estonian phrases should make wonders :)







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              "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
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              "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
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            "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
            – Michael Kay
            Jun 22 at 16:05




            "Well, I would not walk there myself either." It's a very good point that a drunken gang of youths will be abusive to anyone who isn't part of their "crowd", and someone who is black will perceive this as racist whereas it could equally happen to you because you are wearing the wrong clothes. Not that this is any consolation if you're the victim.
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            Having recently returned from Estonia and having traveled around the country solo, without knowing the language, I am happy to report that with the exception of the immigration officers, my experience has been completely positive. It is true that people in this part of the world just do not smile and are not gregarious and outspoken, like you might expect in India or the Americas, but they were all very polite, well behaved and helpful whenever needed. No trouble or racism at all.






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            Having recently returned from Estonia and having traveled around the country solo, without knowing the language, I am happy to report that with the exception of the immigration officers, my experience has been completely positive. It is true that people in this part of the world just do not smile and are not gregarious and outspoken, like you might expect in India or the Americas, but they were all very polite, well behaved and helpful whenever needed. No trouble or racism at all.






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            Having recently returned from Estonia and having traveled around the country solo, without knowing the language, I am happy to report that with the exception of the immigration officers, my experience has been completely positive. It is true that people in this part of the world just do not smile and are not gregarious and outspoken, like you might expect in India or the Americas, but they were all very polite, well behaved and helpful whenever needed. No trouble or racism at all.






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            Having recently returned from Estonia and having traveled around the country solo, without knowing the language, I am happy to report that with the exception of the immigration officers, my experience has been completely positive. It is true that people in this part of the world just do not smile and are not gregarious and outspoken, like you might expect in India or the Americas, but they were all very polite, well behaved and helpful whenever needed. No trouble or racism at all.







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